Monday, May 18, 2015

Emotional Infidelity - An Autopsy

The "Sexodus"

In the wake of the reporting on this recent trend called the “Sexodus” – a sociological phenomenon in which a huge percentage of young men are seemingly giving up on marriage and commitment while retreating to electronic stimulation in lieu of the real thing, where idealized females don’t sue for alimony or even demand that a guy take the garbage out  –  this cautionary tale is mainly for the reader to better understand an under-reported phenomenon of the so-called gender wars:  the Other Man.

Too often our media is full of accounts of rapists (often connected with an accelerated rise in binge-drinking at frat parties), which rightly portray the harm caused by guys who are unable to control their libido while inebriated or drugged, so they take what they want and think they can avoid the consequences.  On a related note, ‘date rape’ has become common-place. We also have the stories of adulterous affairs, and these too usually portray the man as being the adulterer. Even then, they rarely attribute the philandering due to anything other than an uncontrollable libido, or as the buzzword of late has it, “sex addiction”. Often these stories are told by the ‘Other Woman’, who often portrays herself as the victim of an unfaithful husband making false representations to lure her into bed,  and sometimes promising to leave the wife and marry her instead.  Sometimes this is actually the case, but sometimes the craftiness is on the part of the female, who is seeking to acquire the man’s financial and intellectual capital to feather her own nest and provide for a brood awaiting in her own ovaries to spring forth.  And sometimes the story is told by the jilted wife, who may not be so concerned with the physical philandering but the emotional betrayal. To be sure, few of the practitioners would own up to such conniving.

Tales of 'Emotional Abuse'

One such example is that of a woman who I was recently told about, in advanced years and mother of three children in their thirties.  The husband and father had died though he had divorced the woman earlier, some say as a result of an affair though on whose part I wasn’t told.  In the past three years this woman had taken up with a wealthy widower who has been wooing her with gifts, topping it off with an expensive car costing somewhere in the neighborhood of $40,000.  And yet the woman has not – or so she confided – had any sexual encounters with her would-be lover.  Her grown children, when visiting, always call the man “Sugar Dad”, or “Sugar Daddy”, which is the one thing that really provokes him.  Recently a mutual friend, a female, asked this woman as she often does, “when are you going to stop using this man?!”  To which she replied “when the house is paid off”.  What a stunning admission, yet this was said as casually as if asked when a pie would finish baking.  After a pause while this sank in, the younger female then asked her if she had considered what the man would do if he was ever ditched by her, “having invested over six figures in you”.  Apparently the only response was a shrug of the shoulders, as if to say, “I don’t care”.  Unfortunately, I don’t think the answer would be too pleasant, as the suitor is still working beyond retirement age in order to maintain his health insurance plan.  And yet this woman scolds and chides her suitor in public, to which he responds meekly by all accounts. 


Myself, I think it’s a recipe for disaster, and I think there are more examples of this kind of cruel exploitation on the part of many women who have thrown pretext to the wind and have gotten into one variation or another of the gold-digger game in a big way.

(The following account may or may not fall in the same category, the reader can decide.)

The point is that usually these stories are usually told from the female perspective, rarely from a man’s point of view.  This may be a consequence of the male biological wiring that emphasizes sexual contact over emotional intimacy, so it appears that few men seem to be interested in the emotional overtones that tend to permeate ‘female porn’ and the reams of romance novels that girls tend to gravitate to, while their male counterparts are immersed in traditional pornography (this isn’t mere conjecture; a simple check of soon-to-be-obsolete book-stalls and magazine sellers will prove this point).  The rift between them has grown even wider in recent years with the advent of the internet becoming the primary method of communication and stimulation.

Anatomy of an Emotional Affair

Some years ago, a close friend – we’ll call him Brent – was contacted by email through his website, which was conspiracy-related and so attracted the attention of truth-seekers and, well, a few kooks and crazies as well, as the subject matter lends itself to those labels.  At the time, not being aware that there was such a thing, he responded to this one particular girl the same way he would respond to anyone seeking information.  (Other girls had also made contact this same way, some crazier and more flirtatious than others.)  After several replies, they gradually developed a daily habit of spending time on an instant-messenger service.  At the time, Brent had been living with a girl for a number of years, but their relationship had become stagnant, and he felt frustrated and distanced from his live-in girlfriend – we’ll call her Annette.  After some probing by his new friend – we’ll call her Valerie – he opened up and ventured a few questions about how he might be able to re-energize his relationship with Annette, as they had started to talk about other things in life than conspiracy.  A few days later, Valerie asked Brent for his phone number so she could phone him and they could talk more easily than having to type on Instant Messenger (IM). At first, they talked about the JFK and 9/11 conspiracies, traditional pillars of conspiracy-awareness, but Annette overheard them on the phone and asked Brent to take the conversation outside as she didn’t want to have to hear that “conspiracy sh*t”.  Thus, Brent found himself going to his car and talking on the phone to Valerie about all manner of things, and this went on until Valerie’s calling card from Canada ran out of minutes.  Brent was delighted in having a new friend to not only talk to about the Big Picture but also to get advice from about his love life. 

When I first heard from Brent about his new-found friend, I cautioned him about getting too enamored of her, but I could tell he was clearly much happier, and he told me excitedly about how this Valerie was more like his ‘dream girl’, and he really wished Annette would be more like her – at least to accept his passion for most things conspiratorial.  Things went on in this vein for several months, and Brent confided to me that he and Valerie had been flirting on IM and she had gotten him so worked up he was on the verge of masturbating with her (shhh!!) when Annette suddenly walked in on him and that put and end to that.  (Perhaps Annette had sensed this ‘other woman’ was intruding on her fiancé, but as it turned out, she herself had been doing the same with a man in California, but instead of plain IM it was in the virtual world known as Second Life – where much of the interaction is overtly sexual.)

Soon afterwards, however, Valerie – while continuing to talk to Brent on IM – went off to question a number of debunkers about things astronomical, while Brent tried in vain to explain to her that the conspiracy forum he had introduced to her harbored many debunkers whose sole purpose was to cast ridicule on anything smacking of a pending pole-shift or Nibiru – which is the ultimate show-stopper among conspiracy [ahem] ‘theories’.  Apparently convinced by the debunkers, who are as well-schooled in using traditional science to debunk heretics as their forerunners in the Vatican were, Valerie and Brent drifted apart. Brent then re-focused his attention on Annette.

However, the next time I heard from Brent, he was moving out from the house he’d shared with Annette – she simply wanted him gone as she had had her fill of anything pertaining to “conspiracy”, and was planning on consummating the relationship she’d begun on the Second Life virtual-world website.  Meanwhile, Brent told me that Valerie had decided to go out West to see what might come of a renewed relationship with a “previous boyfriend”, as he had said he wanted to “give it another try”.  He, meanwhile, was truly heart-broken and devastated over Annette’s treachery and had seemed to have lost interest in Valerie as he was more concerned with moving out of the city and into a less-expensive rural area.  I helped Brent move and we spoke little of Valerie.

Some months later, Brent received an email from Valerie, forwarding an innocuous link someone had passed on to her.  As he later told me, Brent said he wrote her back and explained that although he found the news item(s) interesting, he really did not want to hear from her so long as she was still working on being with her old flame – we’ll call him Matt – because, as he put it precisely, “you’re my kind of dream girl and I’m very emotionally vulnerable right now because of what happened between Annette and I, and it would hurt too much to hear from you though I do wish you and Matt the best, I really do”.  He went on to make it quite plain that he didn’t want to hear from her so long as she was still with Matt.

As it turned out, he didn’t hear back from Valerie for several months, and thought no more of her, as he was still reeling from and dealing with Annette, who deserves her own story in all this of course.  But then, near the end of summer, he started receiving emails and IMs from Valerie again, and again she asked Brent for his phone number.  Brent complied, and then began months of the two of them spending practically every day on the phone together.  Brent told me later that it was over 921 hours from his phone log alone for 3-1/2 months, and this didn’t count the daily emails and IMs that Brent would also reply to from his phone, whenever he left the house and Valerie wanted to chat with him.

You might wonder what kind of content was in all those phone calls and emails and instant messages.  You also might be surprised to hear that there was very little “sexting” involved, as it appeared mathematics was Valerie’s latest interest, but that didn’t mean there wasn’t any sexual tension or emotional bonding going on, for buried in all the mathematics that Valerie liked to talk about were vignettes of her past relationships, her feelings of being betrayed by Matt – though curiously not due to anything that Matt DID, but more of what he apparently didn’t do (which was to provide a moment to properly ‘swoon’ in, as Brent later described it to me). 

Brent then told me a curious thing, something which has confounded me in all my research into the phenomenon:  her voice provoked an orgasmic reaction, one which startled him when it first became apparent but later proved almost embarrassing.  Eventually this became almost like an addiction, practically a narcotic.  After hanging up the phone with her, he usually had to relieve himself but this also made him even more miserable, as he refused to ‘touch himself’ while on the phone.  There was another curious development as a result of Valerie’s phone calls: he seemed to lose  interest in porn.  If he fantasized at all, it was simply looking at her picture and dreaming mostly chaste dreams, almost always devoid of sex.  It was unsettling to him, though he thought it marvelous.  Valerie herself would express irritation whenever he brought up this curious phenomenon, so he would only rarely make reference to ‘The Reaction’.  Still, it troubled him in that he seemed unable to show any interest in the women that were physically in his life.  Of course he wanted to see her, but it would be months before that could be arranged as she lived so far away, and in another country.

How to explain that?  After thoroughly researching the condition that Valerie had, and coming to a diagnosis of a psychological disorder that had an estimated prevalence of between .7% and 2.5% in the general population, depending on gender, age, and nationality, it appeared that one of the major factors her condition highlighted was an inability to feel comfortable in social situations, which lent itself to an increased use of electronic media to interact with socially.  Brent recalled how – during the early months of their first interactions – she once remarked how nice it would be to simply just chat all day on IM with each other.  This struck him as odd because such a method is only prelude to the ‘real thing’, but this was before he became aware of her disorder.  Essentially, her condition  made for a more alluring and magnetic ‘voice’ that tended to carry more subconscious information in it, much like a blind person uses his ears and the aural environment to help guide him through any physical obstacles while moving.  (For those that are interested, there’s a phenomenon related to clairvoyance called clairaudience, and it appeared Brent was clairaudient; essentially, he could pick up emotional data that was being transmitted with a voice, which is simply a magnified version of what anyone can tell by the sound of a voice.)  While this plays a pivotal role in our particular story, the same type of story could probably be told without it.

In any event, as the holidays approached, Valerie mentioned to Brent that her official boyfriend Matt – who had gone back out to western Canada to live with his mother while awaiting a medical procedure – would be coming back East to spend them with her.  Brent told me later how shocked he was to hear this, as he understood Matt’s ‘betrayal’ to be of such a magnitude that he asked her ‘then why would you be having him back??’.  She told Brent she couldn’t very well ask him not to come, as it was so close to Christmas anyway and that would be “cruel”. 

He told Valerie that he felt like “chopped liver” and that what she needed was a “gay male friend” that she could talk to but wouldn’t be in danger of getting emotionally involved with, and she replied that ‘no, I don’t want some gay guy, I want that male energy from a man that’s interested in me’.  Not long after that she told him over the phone that she had not yet decided on who she wanted to be with, Matt or himself [Brent], and at the time Brent had little idea how little independence she really had, or chose not to have.  In fact, a few days later Valerie kept him on the phone while she cleaned the apt. she had shared with Matt earlier in the year and the one he would be coming back to.  Brent told me later how anxious he felt for her sake as she had stopped vacuuming after the first couple of hours of talking to him all the while her father and brother went to the airport to pick up Matt; they were only minutes away from arriving when she finally finished talking and got off the phone. 

Brent told me later that he had admitted to Valerie that during that last long phone call, it was like she had kept him on the phone long enough “to make sure I belonged to her”.

That was another curious part of the relationship, particularly as Brent has been pretty talkative himself for most of the time I’ve known him.  To hear how he would sit listening intently to Valerie for 8, 9, even up to 12 hours in some cases positively floored me.  He sheepishly admitted to me that he’d volunteered to Valerie that she had him “wrapped around her little finger” and all he wanted to do was please her.  It was a bad omen, as his other friends along with myself tried to get him to see that the relationship was not headed for a happy ending, especially after she had to stop calling while Matt was in the apt. for the holidays.  Most of us thought she was using Brent, that she was “taking the icing off of someone else’s cake because there wasn’t enough on her own piece”.  We pointed out to him that Valerie had told him she wasn’t concerned about “the physical stuff”, as in, she didn’t mind him sleeping with other girls, even his ex, Annette. Brent even confided in me that he wasn’t even interested in sleeping with anyone, other than dreaming of being with Valerie.  

However, shortly after New Year’s, Brent told me that she called him when she was supposed to have gone to work.  Apparently since she knew she was going to be late, and Matt out of the apt. for the day as a result, she called and they spent the day together on the phone much as they had before the holidays.  And then, after a couple of weeks, Matt apparently decided to stay and look for a job, so Valerie started spending more time on instant-messenger with Brent.  They even devised a code to use for when Matt might happen to be walking past her on the computer while they were chatting.  Valerie said that as far as Matt knew, ‘we only talk about math’ when on IM. 

Brent found a GIF image of a fish flopping about on a fishing line after having been caught.  He used it every time he felt Valerie was “toying” with his emotions; as he pointed out, every sentence coming from her was half encouraging, and half discouraging.  I asked him, “does she ever use the word ‘but’?  I bet she doesn’t!”  Brent said, “how’d you know??” I said, “there’s your clue that she knows that using that word might turn every missive from her into a ‘Dear John’ letter, but she doesn’t use it because she doesn’t want to lose you while at the same time, she has to keep you at arm’s length because she has no intention of leaving Matt for you”. Brent got angry at the thought and wouldn’t talk to me for days, probably because he knew I was right and didn’t want to admit it even to himself.

“She’s the only one that’s ever induced in me the desire to submit to her will, and to be happy doing it while knowing it would make me miserable”, he said later when we were speaking again. “Except when it comes to the one thing in my life that had the most impact on me prior to meeting her; she never seemed to accept that for what it was.  And maybe that’s why she won’t even bother talking to me, even to give me an official ‘Dear John’ letter.”

“It’s that damn siren song of her child-like voice”, he added.  “That and the fact she suffers so much from this disorder that she can’t even walk down the street and see her own reflection in the windows of cars on the street. It makes my heart bleed for her.” Apparently his heart continued to bleed for the next 2 years, though they did meet at Niagara Falls and spent the day together.  Matt went back out West, but then returned for the Christmas holidays next year too.  Brent, having spent so much time studying her condition, concluded that one thing that might help her was to get her to take pictures, so she could learn how to be less harshly critical of her own perspective by making an effort to take ‘nice’ pictures.  So he sent her a camera.  He wasn’t sure how she might take it, but she was quite enthusiastic about the idea and encouraged him to send it.  He was reluctant to at first, and even tried to arrange to send it to a different address, but she insisted on having him send it to her at the apt. because, as she put it, “I always get the mail anyway”.  Well, as it turned out, she didn’t get the mail the day it arrived, and when Matt got it he wondered aloud why Brent had sent such a nice gift to someone that was supposedly only a ‘friend’ that Val talked about math with.  It even had a Carl Zeiss lens on it, which impressed him, but Valerie had no idea about cameras as it turned out, and it was probably this one thing that finally helped him to understand his plight better.

The one thing that Brent had gotten her to promise to do was to take at least one picture with it and email it to him, to let him know that at least it worked.  Brent had taken pains to make sure all the cords were in the box, the battery charger, even a case for it.  He even joked that – since Valerie often hated her own image and was not inclined to take pictures of herself – that she could just take a picture of the wastebasket or a garbage can, if she couldn’t bear to take a selfie.  She promised she would, but as the days and weeks wore on and she didn’t send a single picture, it started to upset him.  After all, he reasoned, it wasn’t much to ask of someone when they encouraged you to send them such a nice gift.  Valerie tried to say it was due to her condition, but this is when Brent starting seriously consider that she was using her condition as a blanket excuse for not doing things.  After voicing his concerns yet again, Valerie then sent a slew of pictures with the caption “oh ye of little faith”, but as she was soon surprised to learn, she couldn’t pull that one over Brent’s eyes as he had learned from me early on how to determine the date, location, and camera used from a picture.  Brent used that information to determine the camera used was NOT the one he had sent, and the pictures were from that first holiday season of the “love triangle”, when the pictures that were taken were primarily of the furniture in the apt. Valerie’s mother had lived in before passing away the year before, when Brent and Valerie had first fallen out of touch.  There were even a few of Valerie herself.  However, Brent was upset that Val had lied to him, and still could not understand why she couldn’t even bring herself to use the camera he had sent.

I tried to explain to him that there were two probable reasons for this.  One, Matt – having intercepted the gift – may have kept the camera for himself and Valerie would have been relieved not to have gotten in more trouble with him for having lied about it, or he might have broken it intentionally, as its presence might have been troubling to him.  Two, and most likely, Valerie had probably buried it in the bottom of a drawer or at the back of a closet in the hopes of hiding physical proof of her duplicity, especially since she knew she had been misrepresenting the truth to both men.  To this day the camera seems all but forgotten except in this cautionary tale; some ‘Other Men’ aren’t so lucky, as they get taken to the cleaners and back by unscrupulous women.

I said, “Brent, remember that old adage, ‘It’s better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all’?  Well, they were on to something, because even though you allowed someone to get under your skin like that, and remember the person usually wants to get under it, it’s the outpouring of love on your part that’s more important than the other person’s rejection in the end.  Typically we punish ourselves for having failed in some way, when in actual fact, that’s not the case.  Of course there may have been something that triggered the falling out, but ultimately if there’s no love there on the other side it’s no use continuing to waste giving it on your end.  It’s true we usually think that if we only try harder, we can achieve that state of mutual happiness, but if the other person makes no effort, shows little motivation to change their circumstances (such as having the courage to tell Matt she wasn’t happy being with him but didn’t feel she could leave him because she would feel guilty after all he had done for her) they’re the loser in all this, particularly if they had no feelings at the outset.  They just wanted to receive the benefits of someone understanding them, someone who had passionate feelings for them.  This might explain why this girl Valerie won’t give you any closure – as far as she’s concerned, you’re but a plate of chopped liver that’s irritating her once you’ve called her out.  She may not even be aware of this fact, either. And remember, you did call her out by pointing out the fact she had previously used another boy for the emotional experience of being seduced when the truth was she had no intentions of consummating the seduction.”

(That was a reference to a story Valerie had told Brent about an incident that happened while she was at university, when she had allowed a boy to take her back to his place and let him seduce her ‘for the experience’, not because she had any intention of allowing the seduction to be consummated – to the contrary, though due to the threat of physical violence she ended up giving in to his demands.)

“Claims of ‘date rape’ to the contrary”, I continued, “a girl who knowingly allows a guy to believe in a lie is different from a situation in which the girl is genuinely unsure and may or may not respond to the seduction, but I know you enough to sense you parsed the situation out carefully when you stepped through the scene she described as you asked her questions.  You know many girls will tell you what they want you to hear, and it’s up to you to figure out what the ‘other side’ would be, even if you love the girl.  You probably should’ve kept your mouth shut, but since you found yourself in the same place, it’s no surprise you reflected it back to her.  Had you been her only suitor, given a fair chance, that’s one thing, but it was known to you both that she had an “official” boyfriend who she was essentially cheating on emotionally with you.  Even though you don't want to admit this to yourself, I think you got her number right in the beginning when you said you felt like she was coming to you for the “icing on the cake” that she hadn’t gotten on her first piece, but wasn’t interested in the cake as she already had a piece ‘thank you very much anyway’.  Brent, the fact is you – like so many of us – were hungry for a loving relationship and she made you feel special enough with her attention that your feelings overflowed.  It’s only natural.  The problem is, as you know, you weren’t given that 'fair chance' yet you opened up as if you had been; think back on what she told you when she kept you on the phone all those hours with her father and brother going to pick up Matt at the airport – when you asked how she could do that, she said she “couldn’t very well tell him no” to coming to spend the holidays with her.  Meanwhile, where did that leave you?  Did she think so much of her own needs that she didn’t want you to take the opportunity to meet someone else?  What happened to that girl outside Detroit, that Danielle girl that wanted you to come visit her?  You passed on her because you couldn’t say no to Valerie’s phone calls, and Valerie never asked if it was okay to keep you on the phone with her.  Stand up for yourself, man!  You might be with someone who wants you for YOUR sake if you had only stood up to Valerie and given her a straight-up choice, because if you were in that other guy’s shoes, you certainly wouldn’t want your girlfriend establishing an emotional bond that went beyond what she had with you, would you?”

“I know, Don, but I couldn’t help it by then. She had me hooked, line and sinker, and she secured my emotional loyalty by crying constantly that no-one truly understood her situation, her feelings of being 'split', of needing to feel 27 all over again because she had missed out, or truly cared enough about her”, said Brent.  “She even told me that she had ‘accidentally’ emailed Matt a reply that she had intended for me, and this is how Matt found out that we'd been writing – even though I knew that was a crock, because as everyone knows an email would have to be copied or forwarded to a specific third party.  She WANTED him to know we had been corresponding, maybe to let him know that he was losing her and simply wanted him to get jealous enough to stop being angry with her all the time and instead act more passionate and accepting with her.  Either way, it opened up an ugly wound and I ended up writing to her father and telling him of my true feelings, and warned that she needed to see a psychologist for a proper diagnosis and therapeutic care.  She dangled my email to Matt as if to say ‘see, Brent knows what I’m suffering from! You should listen to him about it, but disregard all that love-stuff he says’,” Brent said.  "Talk about wearing your heart on your sleeve. She didn't seem to care at all about the fact I even HAD feelings for her, feelings she had knowingly encouraged in me. Made me feel like chopped liver all over again."

I said, “if I’m not mistaken, didn’t you guys have a code worked out, so that when he passed by her computer he wouldn’t see what you two were saying to each other?”

“Yeah,” said Brent; “we spent more thought-time together than she did with him, apparently because he didn't like listening to her all that much, even while they were living in the same apartment”.  I replied, “But what did you get from that? Just the opportunity to feel for and care about someone other than yourself.  You two conspired together in keeping your communications secret from Matt and this made you feel special enough, probably. But did she even want to be with you?  Did she even ask you any questions about your own life, other than the dutiful 'how was your day'? Apparently not.  You may have joked about talking of her favorite subject, which was herself, but judging from where I'm sitting, that's not all that funny though it's true enough. From her perspective, you should probably feel lucky enough to be allowed to love her from afar”, I laughed. “If you keep on like this, you’re going to drive yourself into a deep depression.  There was no ‘there’ there for you, Brent.  You need to get over that.  Remember that camera you gave her?  You told me how it came up in conversation, she encouraged you to send it to her, and you did.  All you asked was for a picture taken with it.  She protested that she could barely look in the mirror, let alone the camera.  Had she told you that before you sent it?  No, and you did ask.  That’s because she just wanted to exert control over you, get you to do her bidding, let you do the kind of things for her she felt Matt wasn’t doing. You said you’d even settle for a picture of a wastebasket, a trashcan.  Anything.  But instead, the boyfriend happened to get the mail that day and was curious as to why you were so generous as to send her a camera. Did she tell him the truth?  No, because she didn’t want to lose him. Or admit that she had led you on.  And once he had intercepted the gift, she couldn’t bear to even touch it. When you pressed her for a picture, which was a reasonable request, she tried to pass off a bunch of pictures taken with HIS camera a year earlier but didn’t realize that you could figure what particular camera they came from.  Did you think she wouldn’t lie to you Brent?  She couldn’t bring herself to so much as look at the camera after that, as it was proof of her duplicity in encouraging you to send it, then making it look like you were “muscling in on” his girl.  Was that fair to you?  No, so you need to get a grip on yourself and chalk this up to experience, to yet another encounter with a tragically misguided soul, one who has isn’t concerned in the least with your own feelings.”

"Furthermore, think of that condition she suffers from.....she often can't bear to face herself, to see her reflection.  Think of that! She simply cannot face herself!  Can't you see that she probably has done something that she's so ashamed of, maybe when she was so very young that an authority figure who may have abused her made her feel that it was all her fault, it was all due to her desire, or maybe it was during a past life that she did something so shameful that she's carrying around some deep emotional baggage she's simply unwilling to face and her reaction to seeing her reflection is shouting out this fact to anyone who cares enough to listen."

“So,” Brent said, “are you saying that it isn’t good enough to simply love someone, to have someone to love?  If I demanded love in return, before I’ve had the chance to properly demonstrate my love to her, well that wouldn’t be true love, would it?  Funny how she actually suggested that a few times to me,” he added.

I retorted, “She said that because she wanted you to feel guilty for even wanting love in return from her, as I gather from what you’ve told me that one of her big problems with Matt was his insistence that she return his feelings, or at least make an attempt to do so. She didn’t want the same problem with you that she had from him, and from everything I’ve heard from you say about Valerie, it seems you're dealing with someone who is extremely narcissistic.  Narcissists like that never really love anyone other than themselves, but they recognize when someone else loves them and, to the degree they can, will keep those people in their orbit as long as they show proper adulation and attention.”

“That's okay,” insisted Brent.  “I don’t mind, but what I do mind is not being allowed a proper chance to prove myself.”  “Don’t you get it yet, Brent?” I said; “that’s never going to happen.  If he leaves her, don’t think you’ll be happy to take his place; on the contrary, you’ll be the one she’ll cheat on emotionally next, because even you – as much as you think you won’t mind being miserable if only she’ll talk to you – won’t be able to give her as much as she needs.  She needs as much as she can get, not just one person, but as many as possible, particularly guys - and that's mainly due to how most women seem so week and deferential, and there's always a bit of conquest involved when a debate is between genders.  It seems your little Valerie is to conspiracy-theorists what groupies are to rock-stars, but now she wanted to be more than just a groupie, she wants to be a rock-star herself and have her own male groupies.” Brent said, “oh, I knew that already, I joked to her that she always seems to be collecting acolytes”.  I said “so you think that’s funny, eh? Maybe when you realize that a girl like that can’t be happy with someone who holds a different opinion than her, or who won’t allow themselves to have their opinions molded by her, you’ll change your tune.”  

Brent said, “but I WANTED her to mold me to her ways, her thoughts; I think it’s a most beautiful thing to give a girl, to allow them control.”  “Think again, buddy”, I said.  “It may be arousing to you, but that’s because you’re so hungry for someone with a high IQ to want you that you’ll put up with anything, but trust me on this”, I said.  “She may need a lackey, but unless she thinks she’s won one through a lot of hard work, she won’t respect one.  If you go down that route, you have to re-learn how to play those games like we all did back in junior high-school. Worse, after you allow her to put a leash on you, she still isn’t likely to respect you.  It’s better you stand up for your own principles, and stand by them, too. Especially if you truly want to help her.” 

“Good grief!” Brent said.  “You make it sound like she’ll only be happy when she’s screaming bloody murder, and only able to have an orgasm after a big fight!  I can’t believe it!”  “Believe it”, I said.  “There are indeed women out there like that, just like there are guys out there that will commit date-rape or slap their wife around, all the while looking the part of the injured, innocent lamb.  You act like you believe that fairy tale about how girls are made out of ‘sugar and spice and everything nice’.  Some are, and worthy of being your goddess if that’s mutually agreed to, but others are more like the wicked witches of the land of Oz, and you have to learn how to spot them before you let them under your skin unawares. Like all of us, they're simply poor lost souls trying to have an impact on their world, to be heard and paid attention to, even if they use surreptitious methods to get the attention they crave."

“Furthermore”, I went on, “while I’ve heard you say that Valerie told you that Matt had complained about you ‘muscling in on his girl’, we both know that you had done no such thing and had in fact respected him at the outset when you kindly asked her not to write to you so long as she was in a relationship with him.  Remind yourself that it was not you that approached her but the reverse; it was you who took her calls at her instruction to call her back when she rang your phone with two rings.  Remind yourself that 90% of the conversation was her talking to YOU.  If anything, Matt wasn’t taking enough care of her to keep her from preying on other guys emotionally; maybe you should ask HIM to tell her to give you closure.”

Well, the ‘affair’, such as it was, lasted about 2 years after that summer of 2011 when the long phone calls began.  Sometime in the spring of 2013 Brent finally ‘stood up’, and that day he refused to take Valerie’s calls.  Maybe it was this that pushed her all the harder to try to reach him, and when he finally did answer, she said that she was finally ready to come visit, to be with him.  Brent told me later that he did insist to her that if this was true, that she give him an “honest opportunity”.  Valerie then said, “oh so I have to ‘be’ with you, is that it?  I have to be your girlfriend?”  Brent said “no, it’s not that you have to be, but you have to at least give me an honest chance to become a boyfriend, and not based on a lie. That means maybe yes, and maybe no.  And that’s the only way it will work because otherwise, it’s not fair.  Either to me or to Matt.”

Soon after that, on another phone call, when Brent asked her when she would be coming to visit, she started a long dissertation that spoke sorrowfully about Matt, how she had been so faithful (Brent interrupted her with ‘whoa! You’re not being faithful either to him or to yourself by suggesting that just because you won’t allow another man’s penis inside you you’re somehow being ‘faithful’!! If I were in his shoes and knew this was going on, I most certainly wouldn’t think you were being faithful!!’), and how he had sent her money on all those occasions in the past when she needed it, and this wasn’t fair to him, and other plaintive sadnesses that had her on the verge of tears, and him too.  I said “Brent, tell me you called her out for slowly ripping your own heart apart as she made the case for going back on her word!” Brent said that he couldn’t recall what all he had said – other than to insist to her that she was certainly NOT being faithful by talking like that.

Finally, a few weeks later, Valerie had started to admonish Brent for his beliefs, for thinking and talking the way he did, and though at first he was civil and even teasing in responding to her, she kept at it and finally Brent exploded.  As he explained it, he felt that she had been slowly attacking him, and not only couldn’t respect his own beliefs, she never thought enough to even ask him about his own experiences and why he believed as he did.  As Brent told me later, he said some cutting things about people with “small minds”, though it was always in the third person and not her in particular, and continued on in that vein until he had vented enough about being attacked, and apparently that was the end as far as Valerie was concerned.  She wrote him back and said that she wanted him to stop writing to her, “before you make me hate you”, as she put it.  Brent thought that was rich, as he was always the one who was expected to be there for her phone calls, and even emails and instant messages.  He did ask why, as they had had similar arguments before, but she would only say “like you always say, the heart has a logic all its own”.  She refused to give any reason, other than to say she had been “confused”, and said she was blocking him from emailing her thereafter (she had done that the year before, causing him to set up a new email account), and then said that because she did not want him phoning her either, would allow him to send messages to her youtube inbox.

And that was it.

At first Brent felt much the same way about her as she about him, as he was still angry for her having attacked him “out of the blue”, as he told it.  He’d done nothing wrong, as far as he was concerned; in fact, he was the one who had put up with her phone calls and having her string him along, had studied her condition, had phoned dozens of therapists and counselors, plastic surgeons, psychiatrists and other specialists on her behalf, had researched moving to be closer to her, had sent her gifts and all the little things people in ‘electronic affairs’ do, but felt it had all been for nothing.

However, in the months since, he found he couldn’t keep his mind off of Valerie.  He thought of her every day, even as he started dating local girls, and even developed another ‘electronic relationship’, but nothing seemed to make him happy.  He’d find himself deep in thought when with other girls, and even made the mistake of calling a couple of them by her name.  On the rare occasion he did speak of her to another female, they would either show jealousy, contempt, or even anger.  Some of his female friends were compassionate, one called herself and his other female friends his 'Valerie doctors', but most told him that he was much better off without Valerie in his life, and could find someone who at least showed some interest in his own thoughts and feelings.  I told him the same thing, but I knew the pain and knew he wouldn’t respond to logic so I told him that if he had hopes of ever moving on and making a clean break of it, he should write to Valerie and ask for the closure he didn't feel he had been given. 

“You need some form of closure”, I told him.  “You’re wasting yourself over some girl that could care less if you live or die, and your heart needs to see the proof of how cold and removed she really is”, I said.  “I think that if your heart sees the text on the screen, or hears her voice tell you the reason Why, tells you what the logic of her heart was when she wrote that final line that she was “confused”, then maybe you will have some peace and can move on to love someone that’s worthy of your love.”   

Brent told me that he had written on occasion to her YouTube inbox, telling her he still loved her, sometimes sharing a link or two, though she had only responded once – to his Merry Christmas message that 2013 holiday season in which he had said he was sorry for having failed her, also that he was sorry that “[we] failed each other”, to which he got the curt reply “merry christmas”, but despite writing to a mutual friend out of concern that she was okay (she was, and “doing fine”), she still to this day has not given him any closure.  To hear Brent tell it, he even sent several messages with “multiple choice” options, he even begged her to be as “blunt as necessary” to give him closure, but no.  Not even a 'Dear John' letter. Nothing doing.  It’s as if their emotional connection never happened, as if they never met. Brent recalled over and over one phone call when Valerie had broken down into tears, her voice breaking in huge sobs as she described how people she knew previously would cut off their friendship with her time after time......and as he described it to me later, "I tried to reflect that moment back to her, to remind her that it was by her choice to cut off so abruptly, so cruelly, and I wonder how she sleeps at night doing the same thing to others that she complains people do to her?  Don, it's beyond hypocrisy, but I don't buy that it's to be excused because of her condition.  Am I wrong?"

I finally said "now you're getting it.  No, you're not wrong to think that, but we can never judge what someone else does even if it hurts us. Just keep reminding yourself of that phone call, so that your natural inclination to love isn't blinding you to reality.  Also, remind yourself of how close this person was to what you expect in a girl, but go out and find it in someone who you can truly respect, who will respect you.  Establish boundaries early on and stick to them.  It'll be hard, but that's my prescription."

So I leave it to you, dear reader. Did Brent in fact fail Valerie?  Did she fail him?  Did she merely use him, and if so, how can one tell? Is it wrong to expect “closure” in this day and age?  Is it okay to use others emotionally, that it’s their own fault if they get used for that "male energy" (or "female energy") and emotionally abused like that, especially if a person warns before-hand they're "emotionally vulnerable"? What about if they don't say anything?  Is it wrong to get upset, is it wrong to insist on some form of final ‘closure’ after the moments of anger have passed in an emotional affair, or do feelings just evaporate after an argument?  Or is the problem simply a case of Cupid falling down on the job, as it were?  Or maybe a case of rose-colored glasses, due to such a lack of love and compassion in the world that 'anything goes, as long as you can get away with it, do what thou wilt'?


 What are your thoughts?

Thursday, April 2, 2015

Part 5 of the Rebroadcast of The Dondep Interviews April 2, 2015

9PM Local (PST) or Midnight EST April 2, 2015

On KFUGRadio.org
"BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND! You asked for it. You’ve got it! The first rebroadcast of the now famous and controversial Don Deppeller Interviews!
This week, Thursday April 2, 2015 at 9PM on “The World According to Pleiades” Join us for the REBROADCAST OF THE CONTROVERSIAL DONDEP INTERVIEWS PART 5
DonDep, Successful bank robber, self-identified revolutionary, lead singer and bass player with the first American band to play in Kazakhstan, and much, much more.
Discussion includes Project Preserve Destiny, MJ-12, Dan Burisch, Area-51, Zeta Reticuli, J-Rod, and more…
“The World According To Pleiades” on KFUG Radio Thursday 9pm PST.
KFUG in Crescent City California Streaming World-Wide. http://www.kfugradio.org/ "
-Reprinted and adapted from Pleiades Moonstar's blog, Part 5 - the last show.

                                                               Feeling a little quirky......

Sunday, March 29, 2015

Thank You, Mr. President. Now Let’s Talk Accountability.


 Dear Barack,

Two weeks ago a prayer was answered when you appeared on the Jimmy Kimmel Show Live and, under cover of a comedian, admitted that “aliens….exercise strict control over us”.  You went on to say, when confronted by a comparison with Pres. Clinton’s response to the same question about why he said he “didn’t find anything” (when asked about what happened when he was sworn in and went to ‘look for UFOs and aliens and what goes on in Area 51’), “that’s what we’re instructed to say”.

That was amazing, Mr. President.  You did that with such aplomb, relaxed, and the many studies of your body language will show how comfortable you were with answering the pre-scripted questions posed by Mr. Kimmel.  It shows that you’re just about ready for the Great Admission, which – until it happens – will still blow the minds of much of humanity.

I had asked Nancy Lieder (the Zetas’ emissary, as I’m sure you know) about this, or rather should I say I shared this with her – since she hadn’t seen it before I informed her.  Naturally I pointed out it was done under cover of comedy, though her second reply seemed to be that it was only that – comedy.  Little did she know, nor did I waste her time informing her, that I had just that week been focused on asking for some kind of ‘signal’ from you, some admission in a speech, even if in code, that would help explain the delay in the long-anticipated Announcement.  I considered many words, including the usual ones of “aliens and UFOs”, and also “shift”, and – to signal the true state of affairs, that you aren’t the one that’s really: “in control”. 

And you responded beyond my wildest prayers.

Your exact words were, in response to Mr. Kimmel’s statement about how he would (upon being sworn in as president) race to where the files on Area 51 were, “the aliens wouldn’t let it happen.  They exercise strict control over us.”  Whereupon Mr. Kimmel said “well Pres. Clinton did go in and he DID check, and said that there was nothing there”. You responded, in what must have been a well-rehearsed line, possibly by your double; this might explain a possible double entendre in your answer, which was:  “that’s what we’re instructed to say”.  Wow.  Really: WOW! First, who is “we”?  All modern presidents? Or their doubles? Or both?

“They exercise strict control over us.” We LOFAO, Mr. President.

The point is, you (or your double; some say it was your double while you had been taken to meet with Putin secretly to plan last-minute maneuvers to air the big Announcement, or Great Admission as I call it) publicly admitted that “aliens exercise strict control over us”, and that if you are asked about them, you have “been instructed” to say you don’t know anything about them or – if you DID go looking for evidence of their interaction with humans, that you didn’t find anything.  This is major news, Mr. President, and because it was done under cover of comedy, it will not make the front pages.  Yet the ‘interested few’ in the public that I write for must ask themselves, “why would the president spend over 2 million dollars flying Air Force One across country – and tie up thousands of frustrated motorists across Los Angeles over the presidential motorcade – just to speak for 10 minutes on a comedy show?” Sure, there was a fund-raiser on the schedule as well, but even if you push the bill over to the political party for payment, the fund-raiser would be necessary just to pay for the trip itself!  What is REALLY going on?

I submit it was a way to practice being casual when speaking about aliens in public, and to let them know that there is indeed a public government of the US and a “shadow govt”, which apparently includes some form of alien control.  This is what many critical thinkers have ascertained already, and it also shows just how dumbed-down our media is, or rather how they treat their viewership.  In fact, it goes to show how even the public govt – represented by yourself, Mr. President – plays to the LCD, or “Lowest Comic Denominator”.  We live in a nation of sheeple, Mr. President, thanks to the efforts of your predecessors, yourself, the Congress you spar with every day, the ultra-rich elites that fund the tweedle-dee/tweedle-dum twee-party system, and the MainStreamMedia that is bought and paid for by the afore-mentioned ultra-rich 1%.  Rather than showing the electorate the respect that an FDR or a JFK did (and they did it in such a way that even the less-intelligent among the masses could be inspired and awed) you’ve found it more expedient to treat them like grade-school graduates that have to be spoken to like mushrooms.

Perhaps this, too, is why we have not – and will not – see the kind of public-works programs that a ‘New Deal’ could produce, and should, seeing that this ongoing ‘Great Recession’ is really a ‘Great Depression version 2’.  From my perspective, it looks like we are being denied that, denied a ‘way out’ to protect as many of us as we can, because the goal really IS to eliminate the current human society, level it in fact.  In that, many of us are in agreement, as that will be the only way to eliminate the evil current  Establishment that has suppressed our potential blossoming as a species. If indeed we are to shortly undergo major cataclysms that will rend our civilization stunned, shocked, awed, demoralized and denuded, then by denying the truth as long as possible it will allow the next phase of humanity – homo reticulis, or homo superior as some call it – to  make its entrance without too much competition from the quarrelsome remains of our current civilization. 

Of course that’s not to suggest that our replacement model is a form for a hostile race to take over Earth, a meme that the current Establishment’s emotional generators are churning out to excess in movies such as War of the Worlds, Independence Day, Aliens, as well as a host of mockbusters such as Invasion of the Pod People.  This idea is naturally one that simpleton members of Majestic 12 have sought to encourage among the sheeple, as evidenced in the addled Pres. Reagan going before the United Nations in 1987 to publicly muse on how humanity would hopefully ‘come together as one’ to fight off ‘invaders from another world’.  In this sad paradigm, we earthlings have complete control over our world, our leaders are supposedly ‘duly elected’, and anyone from ‘outside/off-world’ coming here must have some kind of evil agenda in mind.  Any suggestion we have been genetically engineered from apes (specifically, five species of apes) must be made from the insane, the irreligious or the downright atheistic.

Of course nothing could be further from the truth. 

We are, indeed, here on Earth for a specified period of time, time long enough to achieve something and short enough to ensure a steady progress both in the material world as well as the spiritual one.  Our life-form has been built to last an average of 4 generations, or four-score years. During that time we’re either expected to ‘spark a new soul’ (making a decision based on some form of morality or immorality, such as sacrificing our self for another, or murdering another for our own advancement) or to temper an existing in-dwelling soul by a series of moral or spiritual encounters that help us orient ourselves – either to ‘community’ or to ‘self’. 

This planet, terra-formed for this soul-building activity, naturally has to have safeguards in place to insure the resulting soul-harvest (as with any garden or ranch or farm there are occasional ‘harvests’, naturally) isn’t warped or prematurely frozen, or killed off in some manner.  The safe-guards existing here on Earth are maintained by entities known variously as ‘angels’, or ‘aliens’, or ‘demons’ or most commonly ‘gods’.  By whatever name, if and when they reveal themselves to earthly rulers of human origin, they “instruct them….not to reveal their existence [aliens and UFOs]”. 

“That’s what we’re instructed to say.  You [Mr. Kimmel, and by inference anyone who thinks like him] would reveal all their secrets.  They exercise strict control over us.”  How marvelous, how disarming, how revealing, Mr. President!  Smash performance!  Like any good puppet, like any good performer really, you know the secret is to “always keep them laughing”, and you certainly did that, Mr. President! 

Now it remains to be seen how that will play in a serious setting, while explaining why the New Madrid Seismic Zone will pull the Mississippi wide open and dump the Great Lakes nearly directly onto the Texas Coastal Flood Plain.  Or maybe you were thinking of continuing with the façade up until the controlled media is forced to allow you to speak, to explain that after the fact?  Knowing how you operate now, that would appear to be your style, ‘leading from behind’, or ‘explaining after the fact’.  It has not escaped our notice that to make any ‘Announcement’, like anything done in public these days, it will have to be done to explain a situation that has already occurred.  Gone are the days of an FDR and his New Deal, or a JFK and his New Frontier, when their courage resulted in great changes for the good of the common man, but also in their own deaths.  In the case of FDR, it may have been natural (at least natural enough for the history books), but in JFK’s case, it had to be done publicly, in as Masonic a situation as Dealey Plaza presented, where the assassins’ orchestrator Poppy Bush could ‘hide in plain sight’ as the various teams tried fruitlessly until the ‘clean-up’ hit man James Files could finally get off a single shot that did the deed conclusively.

How many in the Establishment media-machine know these details?  Obviously they must, in order to cast aspersions on anyone who questions their flimsy Oswald-did-it line.  Yet most critical thinkers who dig into the story continue to play defense to those lies! To date, it does not appear anyone has the courage, the power, or the ability to take the perps to task, to HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, though many are still alive today and parading around as if their crime will go unpunished thanks to the cloak of ‘National Security’.  Mr. President, do you understand how that lack of accountability curdles the drive among the good to spread more good, more positive energy?  Do you really think “let bygones be bygones” is only about eliminating a drive for revenge?  Don’t you think that severely limits the positive outcomes of holding people accountable, even if they go unpunished?  I think it makes anyone who goes along with such an approach complicit in the crime, even if only after the fact, Mr. President. 

Look, Barack, I know you meant well with the “let bygones be bygones” approach, but the lasting effect is one of complicity in the conspiracy by continuing to hide the truth, which runs counter to your stated values.  After this came up time and again over the years, from bitter Dem activists and independents alike, I decided to quote you about accountability and went searching for an applicable quote from you. Much to my surprise, I found nothing in any of your campaign speeches about holding anyone accountable for their evil deeds other than yourself.  Reading between those lines, I saw then that you never had any intention of holding the perps of the inside job of 9/11 accountable; you never had any intention of holding your predecessors accountable for having instigated an illegitimate war (and in fact have widened that war in many respects by refusing to hold the REAL perps accountable); and most important of all, you never had any intention of holding the perps of your predecessors accountable for their theft of the presidency – which should have lead to not one but many charges of treason against the People of the United States and the Constitution which you swore to uphold it.

On the other hand, there is one potential event which will clear your own name in response to the accusations outlined above that you will be hold accountable for, and that is to make that Announcement, together with Presidents Putin and Xi Jingping.  If and when you are finally able to manage admitting to the peoples of Earth the truth of ZetaTalk – by informing them of a planetary body within the inner solar system that is scheduled to cause a ‘rough ride’ in the months and weeks ahead when it finally passes us by, and how aliens have been interacting with elements within the US gov’t. for decades concerning how they should prepare for this – you can single-handedly, in one speech, accomplish the unimaginable feat of exonerating yourself.  By explaining the truth of a source that WILL provide the details, HAS provided the details, of just what is going to happen, how it is going to happen, who has interfered in our world and how the Council of Worlds ‘fought back’ to make sure the common man learns what your colleagues in the Council of Foreign Relations have known about for a long time, it can be shown by your defenders that you had to quietly, cunningly, in the face of loud demands from your frustrated ‘base’ as well as the immature and childish bullies in the opposition, maneuver yourself into the position to make that simple announcement.  We know (or have been told; the jury is out until you exit without every murmuring a whisper of the truth to a serious audience) that you supposedly tried to ‘announce’ this back in Sept. and Oct. of 2012, and then after several botched attempts you put it on the back burner until you could win the 2012 election.  Then, you (supposedly) met with your Chinese equal in June of 2013, during which the two of you planned to ‘announce’ the weekend after the 500th day hence (to allow for the 2014 harvest, as Pres. Jingping insisted), but that, too, was blocked by the all-powerful privately controlled Western fascist media.  Then, and since, you have been methodically doing…. ‘something’….to pressure certain members of the Big Six media companies to make sure they will allow this ‘Great Admission’ to go forward. If it works, then you will acquit yourself admirably, Mr. President.  If it doesn’t, and nothing happens while the GOP sweeps back into total power, you will have the blood – and soul-growth – of billions on your hands. 

The stakes are that high.



Monday, March 9, 2015

About That Bank-Robbery Business......


A few of my friends and long-time associates have pointed out the seemingly un-repentant attitude I have for having been involved in committing the two bank robberies I’m known for, the "L.A.S.T. bank robberies" by the "infamous Deppeller gang".  Let me make a few things clear, for the record.

If someone today were to find themselves in the same situation I was, I would never, ever advocate the same course of action I pursued at that time in my life.   For one, the environment today is infinitely more dangerous, and if the goal was merely to acquire large sums of cash without having worked for it the old-fashioned way (either as a worker, a professional, or even as a small-time capitalist), one would attempt to ‘hack’ it in cyberspace the way a handful of bankster-gangsters have been doing recently as they see the writing on the wall for humanity-at-large.  If they could do that without harming individuals’ earnings and savings, perhaps there might be some merit in that form of ‘Robin Hood approach’, but the romantic allure of confrontation with the forces of an evil authority simply isn’t there.  Would-be bank robbers today are almost guaranteed to be mere thugs, with no rationale other than egoistic materialism.

The larger reason however is that no matter how ‘successful’ one is at achieving the short-term goal, the fact remains that the Divine (however you want to spell God) will always ‘catch you’, as happened with me.  Even after that mad high-speed chase outrunning 21 law-enforcement vehicles with guns blazing, and eluding capture even after calling a cab and using a toy gun to carry out the second bank robbery over a thousand miles away, the truth was that being on the run was no romantic endeavor.

Having proved we could to it, and having given vent to a righteous anger that was based on something that could be tangibly explained, life on the run as a permanent proposition was nothing to romanticize.  Chiefly because no matter how successful one is at evading the financial powers, one is still condemned internally by the simple values of right and wrong.  Those values were constantly at war with our reality, every night we tried to sleep.  We simply had no peace; even two of the original six in the plot who left between bank jobs for a life as tour guides out West eventually turned themselves in as well.

From the stories I heard from the federal marshals who filled me in following the voluntary surrender of my brother and I, Paul (the judge’s son) would blurt out his story at parties but no-one seemed to believe him, until one morning – sober – he turned himself in at the local police station and his part of the story came out.  Billy Custard (originally Custred), the male gigolo who had obtained the matching .38 specials from a lover, left us while in Florida and disappeared into the Ft. Lauderdale scene, where he presumably felt more at home with the large gay population there. He, too, had ‘come in from the cold’ and – like Paul and Roseanna (who were the real ‘Bonnie & Clyde’ of the gang) served relatively light sentences (even while considering how astonishingly ‘light’ a sentence I received, at 2 – 6 years it was still the longest of all six of us).

The point of all this is that, no matter how far we were able to run, our inner moral compass, or the ‘good angel’ that sat on our right shoulders, pointed a finger accusingly at our actions and eventually impelled us to find our way back to the ‘light’.  That isn’t to say there aren’t people who pull off spectacular financial heists, such as the Bush family did numerous times over the past century (most notably in the 9/11 caper, which netted them billions), and seemingly feel no guilt, but that’s because they are innately ‘service to the Satan of Self’. 

One cannot fight the STS (Service To Self) using the same methods they use, even when doing it in a transparent confrontation such as old-school bank robbery.  The end result is the same, and though the STS can do these things without a single qualm of guilt, the fact remains that those who aren’t firmly committed to the Self Above All will feel – and rightly SHOULD feel – a guilty conscience, and act to assuage it in such a manner as to experience remorse and go on to make his or her presence on earth worthwhile to others in their own inimitable fashion.

In other words, we caught ourselves, and if one is a thinking, feeling being, allegedly engaged in endeavors to help the community (such as we were involved in trying to bring a ‘hearth’ to the community – in opposition to greedy foreign gluttons), the success only comes when one is able to rise above the issues we all get so mired in….issues that tend to curdle our idealism, either suffocating it to death leaving a cynical shell or using it to justify resentment that tends to arise when the truth of the Earth matrix ‘reality’ sinks in – the truth that can eventually set us free, but not before some form of struggle with it takes place.  It was that struggle that was at the heart of the L.A.S.T. bank robberies by the infamous “Deppeller gang”, and for the record – the Pocono Record particularly, which I am grateful to for having assisted in the communitarian effort to bring a ‘hearth’ to East Stroudsburg PA before we were rudely elbowed out of the way – I have always been deeply remorseful for my role in allowing the resulting resentment to crystallize in the form it did, but even after all these years, I still feel that at the heart of the entire experience, the Divine was working in It’s mysterious ways. 

I speak for myself now, because I attribute many of my actions in later years to lessons I learned from the L.A.S.T. period in my life.  After serving my sentence, I returned to my father’s house, then removed to the Wash. DC area in part as a result of the notoriety our shared name had brought to the family in the Poconos, and being an idealist in the capital of the nation placed me where I could be of use to the larger community.  At least I thought so, and that’s what’s important – not the notions that spring from so-called authority. One is driven to do it because of what is within, not what is without. 

I began working quietly in the background, in the ‘grass roots’, on many campaigns, always voluntarily, never seeking to ‘monetize’ my actions for the sake of resume (some would say that’s foolhardy, but the point of action or even prayer is to achieve the goal, not to show off  what should be standard behavior).  Sadly, the notion of ‘civic duty’ has been lost to the newer generations.  To them, the idea of ‘bank robbery’ is still a romantic one at best, a stain and denigration to most.  We now live in an era of  nigh-total self-aggrandizement, or in some extreme cases religious zealotry.  There will likely never be another “Symbionese Liberation Army”, or a “Red Brigade”, though there is the butchery of “ISIS/ISIL/IS” and Boko Haram available to lure mad muslims to a “cause”.

Truthfully, the L.A.S.T. Party was indeed one of the “last of the mohicans” of confrontation, though today hundreds and hundreds of grass-roots organizations are doing in the cyber world what we were trying to do in the so-called ‘real’ world.  Instead of  painting billboards, we construct websites with our messages of ‘change’.  Soon, the ‘real’ world will find itself caught up in the greatest test of all, and all of the ideas we have put forward will find themselves tested, as we will be as individuals.

I hope this clears up a few misunderstandings, and LAST but not least, you can outrun and outfox the FBI, but you can’t outrun or outfox God.  He (or She, or It) will always be with you, whether you accept it or not.

The following three images tell the story in the starkest terms, may the lesson be learned.











First Rebroadcast of the controversial Don Deppeller Interviews

Re-posted from Pleiades Moonstar's twitter announcement at https://twitter.com/pleiades_moon

and blogsite at https://theworldaccordingtopleiades.wordpress.com/ :

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First Rebroadcast of the controversial Don Deppeller Interviews!

BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND! You asked for it. You’ve got it! The first rebroadcast of the now famous Don Deppeller Interviews! Join us for the First Rebroadcast of Part 1 this controversial 5 part interview!
This week, Thursday March, 5th 2015 at 9PM on “The World According to Pleiades” Pleiades interviews Don Deppeller, aka Dondep. Successful bank robber, self-identified revolutionary, lead singer and bass player with the first American band to play in Kazakhstan, and much, much more.
Discussion includes “The Deppeller Gang” and their motivation for robbing banks, being accused of being an East German spy, MJ-12, Dan Burisch, Area-51 and more…
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Tuesday, December 2, 2014

It Takes A Poleshift


News Flash:  President Obama attempts to issue the first-ever Emergency Action Notification on the Emergency Alert System - and is blocked by the Cover-Up





The sad state of affairs we – the collective “we” of the lower 99% of the population – find ourselves in these days will not be cured by extending unemployment benefits, or tax cuts, or miracle drugs, or by defeating the newest incarnation of mad muslims, or even by going back on the gold standard and eliminating the Federal Reserve.  The most recent mid-term elections of 2014 show how hopeless the Common Man feels the situation is, unlike the feeling he had back in 2008 when there was a very palpable sense that maybe THIS time it would be different.  In that vein, most of the 99% would find the one thing the GOP Veep candidate of that year said that they would finally agree with this year: “how’s that hopey-changey-thing working out?” Most would respond “not that great” if they were truthful.  Even the president’s most die-hard supporters. Yes, there are important things that can be done and should be done, in fact are in urgent need of being done.  But let’s take a look at why there is a pervasive air of despair and hopelessness, with pockets of defiant optimism.

First, the story of Ferguson Missouri is still an ugly, open wound and even days after the grand jury’s decision was announced leading into the Thanksgiving holiday, there are major protests against that verdict. A full week after, students in the area staged a massive walk-out of school in a boycott.  While the actual circumstances of that event show that the “unarmed black teen” was actually a bully and not only flouted the law and the police as well as the store owner from whom he blatantly stole, not to mention how he apparently physically acted to take the officer’s own weapon to shoot him, the sad fact is there is indeed a pattern to police brutality and intimidation when it comes to black people.  The death of Mike Brown could probably have been averted, if two things had occurred:  one, if Brown had responded in a less threatening manner, which is the basis for why a lot of white people still feel intimidated by big black guys on the street; and two, if Officer Wilson had responded in a less aggressive manner in where he chose to shoot and why he chose to give chase.  The second issue will likely be addressed by institutions, but the first issue may never be addressed outside of a few ‘town-hall style’ meetings on the major news networks, which have been losing their audience anyway because the public has come to expect them to lie and insult their intelligence while not addressing the people’s real issues, which leads us to another reason for why it will take a pole-shift.

As some of us have been made aware, the television networks and their distributors have prevented the president from making his announcement to the public that will finally admit to them that yes, the gov’t. has been in contact with extraterrestrials, and this is mostly for the purpose of helping humanity prepare for the most transformative event in recorded history – a poleshift, one that occurs approximately every 3,657 years.  Without going into how approximately 90% of humanity will die as a result of this, or why 43% of humanity will go insane following the major cataclysms and celestial events associated with the pole-shift itself (which is alleged to take approximately 90 minutes to transpire), the sad and startling fact is that the people who control what we know and how we know it are hell-bent on preventing the public from learning this truth, because to do so would mean the dissolution of that ‘thin veneer of civilization’ that keeps most people from going berserk, keeps them plodding through their jobs, keeps them – in essence – dumb and blind to the truth. 

Those that really want to know the truth have been digging for awhile and learned it, only to find out that sharing it with the average person usually only serves to irritate them unless they can positively know on what date the Big Event will occur.  Otherwise, they don’t want to be disturbed.   Who can blame them, if they can’t do anything?  Some would say “but they can at least look into it”, and there you get one of the lynchpins to the problem: most won’t.  Unless they can get it in a bite-size package, they won’t bother, in most cases.  In some cases, they may scratch the surface, but then take an easy-out….usually because they base their acceptance or denial on the messenger, not the message.   And if even one fact diverges from what they have been taught as truth (the sun and stars move in stable and verifiable  patterns, aliens can’t travel here without us knowing it, and if they could, they can’t possibly blink in and out of third-density reality, etc) then they shrug their shoulders and stop thinking about it, moving back to their normal concerns and brushing aside thoughts of horrific catastrophe.  In that respect, who can blame them?  And yet some of them become so disturbed by what they hear that they take umbrage with the ‘messengers of doom’, going into denial and sometimes even rage.

However, the point is that the major, corporate media that controls most of what we hear – such as the nightly news – then comes to control what information can be used to constitute opinion, and if they won’t let the president tell us the truth, then what will force them to?  It takes a poleshift.  In fact, it will take a poleshift to force them to tell us of the poleshift, and apparently some intervention by certain aliens/extraterrestrials/cosmic entities to do the only thing that these human authorities respect:  force or blackmail.  In the past, aliens have prevented nuclear-tipped missiles from being launched; this has taught the aggressive humans that any effort that could result in nuclear war will not be tolerated by the council of worlds (a/k/a ‘the COW’).  In the present instance, revelations of the evil the corporate heads have committed in their quest for power will likely be released, with the recent telephone conversation between Ronnie Reagan and his buddy Maggie Thatcher covering Ronnie’s lie to her over his invasion of Grenada being but a ‘shot across the bow’ to those corporate heads that fearfully are preventing the truth coming out.  They may yet ‘go to the mat’ no matter what is released, because they and their cohorts in charge of the financial system that squeezes the public consistently would be decimated by the loss of new 30-year mortgages, possibly even 4- to 6-year car notes, together with all construction projects within the danger zone that are within 250 feet of sea level and 300 miles from the nearest ocean coastline.

Knowing this, and with the awareness that even the Secret Service was in on the plot to kill JFK, it may be that the only way to issue the Great Admission announcement will be by the use of the Navy SEALs and/or the vaunted Delta Force to take control of the network control rooms. If not them, at least some such military organization that is loyal to the president and NOT the Federal Reserve board of directors or The Carlyle Group, which secretly controls the apparatus of the ‘shadow government’ that pulls most of the strings of the public puppet-president.  It will take a poleshift to break the stranglehold this ‘shadow government’ of parasites has wormed its way into wielding over the public government ever since they forced and foisted the privately-owned Federal Reserve upon the public.  Then, in typical fashion for these financial fascists, they ‘squeezed’ the lifeblood out of the public with an intended Great Depression which – while their neophyte stooge Churchill watched from the gallery on Wall Street – accomplished two things, if not more:  One, by introducing the evil of ‘margin loans’ that created the Roaring Twenties, it allowed them to take over thousands upon thousands of small businesses and small family-owned farms when they called in those margin loans, and put the People at their mercy by impoverishing most of them as a result; this then led to Two, which was forcing the corporation of the United States of America into bankruptcy which they then dictated the terms of rescue – the confiscation of the nation’s gold, at a ‘fair’ rate of compensation, which they then secretly re-sold at a higher rate outside of the US.  Thus, there is now no gold in Ft. Knox; in fact, gold can no longer even be ‘leased’ (so that certain owners, like the government of Germany that shipped its gold supply to New York during the Cold War to keep it ‘safe’ from a potential Communist take-over in Europe, can’t even SEE it for at least seven years of a request to do so).  The Chinese recently discovered this, several years ago and to their chagrin, when they demanded certain payments of US Treasury (i.e. Federal Reserve) bonds be made in gold and not paper.  When they were obliged, and received the gold through the City of London, they discovered to their incredible anger that the gold bars had holes drilled in them where they had been hollowed out and filled with tungsten.  However, to go public with this information could have triggered a global financial collapse, taking the entire Chinese economy down with it.  No, it will take a poleshift to rectify this situation, too.

In fact, when the full scope of the betrayal of the public trust becomes known, and the end goals spelled out in that much-castigated publication known as “The Protocols of Zion”, whether going by an ‘original’ title of “The Protocols of Sion”, or “The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion”, the fact is, the passages named within that book as being a program of action have indeed come to pass, whether or not the people see themselves as goyim or jewish.  In fact, it has little to do with any religion, and some would suggest it’s even an attempt to smear the jewish race with plans for world domination; it is not.  However, the nine men that surrounded Meyer Rothschild when those goals were debated and spelled out all belong – and here I am speculating that ALL were – to the jewish faith.  That is NOT an indictment of all jews, many of whom are just as determined to defeat the power of this group of families.  Some say there were thirteen families; if so, I’m willing to stand corrected, as there have indeed been many who claim that.  Nonetheless, whether nine or thirteen, twelve or ten, the fact is they have accumulated so much power that they have become “too big to fail” now, as their subsidiary banking institutions and apologists claim.  No, it will take a poleshift to lay them low.

Many naïve citizens in the populace still cling to the idea that by informing their congressmen and senators, they can ‘awaken them to the present danger’, but such is not the case.  Having done this myself, I have found that my correspondence to senators has had to pass through the Senate Sgt.-At-Arms, the office of which inspects the mail for the benefit of Majestic 12 (or used to at that time), which overseas all public gov’t.-related communications, including the lower-level NSA and CIA.  Thus it came to pass that I did receive correspondence from one such senator, with information that could be interpreted as being from another senator with the same initials and service history, as a form of ‘misinformation’ designed to let me carry the ball with information that misinformed the public, or as a subtle taunt that questioned whether I had the determination to “tell the world”, as his colleagues on the Hill “have no idea” what is going on under their very noses.  Well, I have a surfeit of determination but can I do what hundreds and even thousands of others have tried to do but cannot?  Even if I could sit down with these senators one-and-one, could I overcome the power of the amount of money it takes to get them elected?  Could I overcome their fear of reprisal if they attempted to gather themselves together and stand before the cameras to ‘tell the truth, finally’?  They too know that even if they decided they could do that, those cameras may film them, but would never air their ‘admissions’ on-air.  No, they too know – it will take a poleshift.

No matter where one turns today, a careful analysis will show that the first stage is one of revelation, but simply telling people does nothing except irritate some of them.  It’s the old adage about “throwing pearls before swine”, with apologies to those who take umbrage at the word ‘swine’.  The next stage is to “storm the ramparts” to affect the necessary change, which is where most truth-seekers falter.  This is mainly due to ego, which is usually insurmountable because everyone needs some form of recognition, if not power and fame.  Often this is where a truth-seeker can become part of the problem, as their libido can dig a hole where they are quietly buried.  Greed, too, can be assuaged with such inexpensive things as bright and shiny medals and ribbons, or positions with prestigious organizations that pay nice….’salaries’.  If the truth-teller/whistle-blower continues with their blather, vehicle accidents (think of Michael Hastings) and airplane crashes (think of JFK Jr. and Senator Paul Wellstone) can do the trick, as well as fast-acting cancers (think of ABC anchor Peter Jennings, who appeared as too willing a tool).  No, it will take a poleshift.

In fact, despite the bankster-gangsters of such greedy institutions like Goldman Sachs having the outward appearance of doing everything ‘within the letter of the law’, and despite the profiteering owners of the central bank system typified by the US Federal Reserve appearing to act like calm, dispassionate managers who ‘restored order’ to the System, the fact is the System is on life-support as it attempts to maintain normalcy in these very last days.  That System could be accused, and rightly so, of causing the circumstances that erupted into the Mike Brown case.  Behind the scenes, those same managers may have displayed the same level of passion as Mike Brown’s step-father did when he screamed “burn the bitch down! Burn the bitch down! Burn the mother-***ker down!” upon hearing the grand jury’s verdict.  Why? They want proof that the hoi poloi, or the ‘goyim’ as their forefathers called us, is so dangerous that the militarization of law enforcement nation-wide is now justified.  Running scared, they feel that because they’ve controlled and essentially dictated policy decisions on how the military is deployed, they can continue to do so in the homeland.  The public may not yet be aware of the extent of their dilemma and how they’ve been put there, how they’ve financed escape hatches through not only taxes but the drug trade and the oil trade for the elites, but when they do, this kind of reaction of the elites may be justified if only due to their own guilt and not the anger of their victims.  The ongoing effects are ramping up to hunger and starvation and homelessness, and if they (the ‘Elect’) don’t come clean soon, and I mean very soon, it will come down to the poleshift to do it. 

Why is this the case?  Because the souls dispensed across the surface of the planet are taught from the beginning of their conscious lives that the most important goals in life are the acquisition of power and wealth, fame and fortune.  Sure, there are the few mature souls sprinkled among the classrooms that guiltily remind their rowdier classmates that “love and family”, and amorphous “happiness” are to be valued at a higher level, but after years of socialization, enforcing conformity to selected aspirations, and merely observing their reality and how their own hunger may overcome their righteous anger, most people acquiesce, even if holding onto the ideals of their youth and privately yearning for a ‘Woodstock world’, of “sex, drugs and rock n’ roll”, or a quiet life on a desert island with a partner of their choice.  The point is, if we use a broad brush to reduce the argument to its most basic tenet, most human activity is involved with material acquisition.  The rich, powerful, and/or famous man ‘gets the girl’, not to mention freedom from hunger.  Thus, to achieve success, man ‘goes for the gold’, and even the richest have the drive to become even richer, obscenely rich, even if they dispense large amounts of it uncaringly in the blink of an eye, while living day to day in stingy fashion, unable to even give their own employees a raise when almost every working person today probably has deserved several raises over the course of the past decade or three.   To think that they can lose it all is anathema to them, even though they know they ‘can’t take it with’ them.  

Simply put, we struggle all our lives to build up piles of gold, piles of stuff, at least enough stuff to enjoy non-material things like travel cruises and jet flights and musical concerts and other such ‘soft’ material riches.  Maybe we employ our intellectual capital to acquire even more intellectual capital (writers, artists, scientists), which is then traded for erotic capital (the ‘trophy wife’), or vice-versa, but it is all accumulation and dispensation of some form of ‘capital’, and we do this in a world in which the placement of wise vs. newly-minted souls occurs apparently at random….a cubicle worker in his twenties may have a wise, mature soul near the end of his spiritual education while his boss is a grasping, cunning, cynical fraud that needs another 500 lifetimes to determine what side he plays on.  The boss will have his way, and usually win, while the cubicle-worker will likely lose his McJob within months of getting it as corporations continue to shrink as jobs become more mechanized, the human factor (and with it the need for annual salaries) being eliminated in what the corporate media will crow about as ‘progress’.  Allowed to continue, what happens?  Practically ALL jobs become mechanized, with a bare 5% to 10% of the population left working to oversee the mechanical and electronic functioning of the ‘robot state’.  Allowing for the 1% of the population that owns everything, what is left to the 89% or so with nothing to do?  Are they fed and clothed and given ‘credits’ to purchase those things, or left to starve and be chased off the streets?  Or more likely locked up in privatized prisons? No, it will take a poleshift to rectify the situation, because the owners of the world, and their appointed captains of industry, only begrudgingly do anything for the common good, the common welfare; if they do, they do it with an eye for even more control and elimination of free and independent thinking.  It is in this environment that the president will likely, finally, announce the imminent arrival of the rogue planet, and the need for those willing to work to survive to move inland to FEMA farms, while with each passing day his support slips even further as the People witness the continued non-accountability of those that have allowed this situation to unfold.  Is it any wonder the People sense they have been the victims of a major bamboozling?  

It will take a poleshift to create a situation for every soul to finally become unbound and allowed to follow their natural inclinations to either band together to take care of each other, or band together to maraud and generally make life miserable for those that prefer to work together.  Many will be called to give, and do so, living with either no leader necessary or a charismatic, benevolent leader.  Some will be called to give, but will refuse – and sit in stunned stupor, dying in-place.  Some will be called to maraud, and will do so enthusiastically, while some will join the marauders, thinking that will be the only way they can survive.  Some will join communities living under a malevolent tyrant that uses fear to rule. No matter what circumstances we find ourselves in at that time, our choices at that time will determine our choices in the after-life. 

May you find the wisdom to make the right choices.

- dondep

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Here is a compendium of who I am and what I am about; this is from my first blog post and is copied here for those new to my story.

Welcome to this blog website. My name is Don Deppeller, otherwise known as the original 'dondep' of The Golden Thread - the original, authentic, and independent group of truthseekers that came together in the autumn of 2003 at GLP (godlikeproductions.com) to discuss and investigate the constantly-evolving 'saga' of Dan Burisch and his 'Disclosure' to the world. Recently, the thugs, sock-puppets and assorted minions of the official Majestic 12 that authorized Dan Burisch to "tell the world, for the sake of humanity" have attempted to hijack my 'dondep' moniker, as well as that of The Golden Thread (the authentic one can still be found at http://www.thegoldenthread.info/forum) and Uncle John, chief archivist of The Golden Thread and self-described 'architect of heaven'. This website will contain the history and opinions of myself and may include on occasion those of my comrades on The Golden Thread. We continue to fight on, rather than accept the pronouncements of the officially-sanctioned "Disclosure" at face value, which more often than not insults the intelligence of the reader.

More of my history can be found here:
http://www.danburisch.info/b2/saga/sg_dd.htm

here: http://www.danburisch.info/b2/saga/sg_dd_last.htm

and here: http://jerrypippin.com/Music_Esoterica_Deppeller.htm

Some of my radio interviews are now available here: http://www.danburisch.info/dondepsradiointerviews.htm

June 2008 - Kerrang! Radio, London's leading FM rock station

http://danburisch.info/Dondeps_kerrang_interview__june_2008.mp3

October 2008 - Kerrang! Radio, following up after astronaut Edgar Mitchell's appearance and announcement there -

http://danburisch.info/edited_Kerrang_radio_interview_with_dondep_oct_6_2008.mp3

April 2008 - UFO Undercover

http://www.danburisch.info/UFO_Undercover_April_30.mp3

September 2007 - Perrynoid

http://www.danburisch.info/perrynoid_20070907_0012-78598-39594-2-19.mp3

October 2005 - Rob Simone

http://www.danburisch.info/RobSimone-DonDep_17-10-2005.mp3

August 2005 - Lou Gentile Show

http://www.danburisch.info/Lou_Gentile_-_DonDep_31_August_2005.wmv

April 2005 - Jeff Rense

[available on Jeff Rense radio archives for April 14th, 2005 - a paid subscription service.]

And a few pics of me over the past decade along with a few pertinent document images:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/dondep/2dcd9bf2.pbw